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In this episode, Camilla Bullock, CEO of the Emerging Payments Association Asia (EPAA), joins Danny for a wide-ranging, no-BS conversation that cuts through the noise.

The Emerging Payments Association Asia (EPAA) is the peak industry body representing and supporting the APAC payments ecosystem.

Danny and Camilla get into:

• Why true leadership isn’t about being a “thought leader” (and why Camilla refuses the label).
• The hidden superpower that drives change: spotting the right people and sparking the right discussions.
• Quantum-safe cryptography—why it’s not just a “future problem” and why starting now could be the smartest move you’ll ever make.
• The storytelling gap in cybersecurity—and how to make resilience resonate across an industry that usually drowns in jargon.
• Why recognising excellence through initiatives like the Money Awards creates real momentum, nd much more!

If you care about the future of payments, fintech, or just want to know how the right idea at the right time can reshape an industry - this is your episode.

It’s 45 minutes packed with sharp insights, no fluff, and lessons you can actually use.